On Politics, We Can Always See the Whites of Their Eyes.
Russia and China: Obama Won't Finish First Term
by: Bill Dupray posted: 2009-01-27 16:42:00
Viewed 2606 times. 23 Comments.
We don't want to credit the Commies with too much here, after all, Commies are Commies. But they are major world players and they don't like us very much.
A piece by Ann Applebaum in the Washington Post couches these sentiments in terms of the Commies' inability to comprehend how a guy like Obama could be elected to the presidency (frankly some of us Americans are still wondering the same thing), and how the bad guys just can't grasp the wonderous mysteries of democracy.
Nevertheless, the Russian and Chinese governments tend to see the world as grim realists, and don't get caught up in Hope and Change too easily.
Russia gives Obama a couple of years and then the GOP will again take the reins.
Look, for a typical example, at Pravda.ru, the Russian Web site that succeeded the organ of the Soviet Communist Party. Writing in the spirit of times past, one of its authors informed readers last week that Obama's presidency was a sham. After all, he "became the president because one needed a scapegoat during hard times of the crisis," and he will not last: "If Obama does not manage to extricate the nation from the crisis in two or three years, the Republicans will unveil their real candidate, and Obama's presidency will finish earlier than expected." The U.S. president, in other words, is merely a placeholder -- a description that makes him sound remarkably similar to the president of Russia.
Are they talking about a resignation? Impeachment? I would be curious to know who the Republicans' "real candidate" is so I can send her some money.
The Chinese are a little less oblique about Obama's fate.
One Chinese academic wrote that many of his compatriots were confident that the "impossible" election of Obama would be disrupted by "something dramatic, similar to John F. Kennedy's assassination." After the inauguration, one high-ranking official shifted the line somewhat and denounced the process, calling on China to build defenses against the "erroneous" ideas of Western democracy (Chinese television was wary enough of these erroneous ideas to censor Obama's inaugural address, even as it was being broadcast live).
The Secret Service might want to make a house-call in Beijing to see if there is something going on we should know about.
Related Articles
- Video: Angry, Bitter President Clings to Notion that his opinion Matters to GOP
- Jon Stewart: You set up the Presidential Podium and a TelePrompter in a 6th Grade Classroom?
- Obama: Taupe without Portfolio
- CNN Video: Republicans "poisonous rhetoric" created "fear and confusion among voters"
Links to this post
Trackback url: http://patriotroom.com/article/russia-and-china-obama-won-t-finish-first-term/trackback
Comments 23
Interesting that both the red chinese and the russians have the same opinion of Obama despite his being a kindred spirit -or is it fellow traveler? Considering that Obama may be able to accomplish what neither the Chinese nor the Russians have had the wherewith all to accomplish namely rocking the US economy sufficiently to destabilize our political infrastructure to the point that "We the People" is subordinated to "we the wisest".
On the other hand, it might be a ploy to drum up fear and crises of sufficient magnitude that Obama can further justify the "hard decisions" that "The Minion Who Could" spoke about. Am I getting paranoid?
I just wonder where Americans' breaking point is. The good news is that if there was ever a guy who intends to find out, it is Obama. And if he reaches it, he and the Dems could be done for a generation. He is a gold-plated Socialist and I am not sure we are ready for that.
What a strange statement from these countries. I think it's a cover to help Obama, not hinder him. They are all the same.
You mean they are using double-reverse jujitsu psychology on us? I'll buy that. Obama is weak and it helps the bad guys if Barry stays right where he is.
Am I the only one who noticed that Bill said:
I would be curious to know who the Republicans' "real candidate" is so I can send HER some money. (emphasis added)
Is this a subliminal plug for....www.sarahpac.com....by any chance?!
I'm going to go play Rubber Soul backwards for more guidance.
At least somebody is paying attention around here. ;)
"there will always be some who believe his election must have been manipulated, simply because, in their countries, elections are always manipulated."
Oh, that could neeeeeeever happen here! (cough, ACORN, cough cough)
So Russia and China don't love us regardless of who's in charge here? What a surprise. Hopey Ochangey cannot tame the Bear or the Dragon or Osama, but that will not stop our pathetic, cringing political establishment from making the attempt. There is nobody so evil that our "pragmatists" won't seek an accommodation with them!
The Russians and Chinese both have an "Islamic" problem inside and near their borders. The Chinese are generally more ruthless in dealing with them. I think they both see a play by certain people in the Middle East which may upset them. The Chinese and Russians also may see someone as being bad for business.
See the S&P chart starting in June 2008 when someone stole the nomination (starts down) with ACRON thugs. Oct 2008 when McCain is sinking in the polls (down big). Post election down even more. No one with a brain in America has any confidence in........
It has hurt business a lot in China and Russia. Americans with money are not spending.
It is amazing. The one, rare, time when the "commies" agree with you on the most tangential level possible....you miraculously turn them into Prophets of Deep Wisdom. Do you realize just how desperate this looks, Bill? At times, you seem serious about what you write; this time, though, you have to be yanking everyone's chain. Do you notice how many of your sycophants jumped right on this train? The reverse-reverse-reverse psychology letter was the best!!
Keep the hits coming!!
Rick, you are working yourself up into a lather as you work your way down each post and add your comments. If the site bothers you so much, take a walk. If you want to debate, pull up a chair and lead with your chin fella. But sitting there calling people names might just get you marked as spam, and purged (little Commie lingo there).
I have hardly worked myself up into a "lather". You don't bother me at all, you amuse me. Posts like this do not merit serious discussion. It's just a game. If you can't handle it, ban me from posting.
"Lead with the chin"!!!. You think you're Rocky, don't you?
rick, did you take you meds as the doctor prescribed? you know it's important. i mention it because i am following your posts around the site and you seem a bit cranky.
Vous bien?
No, Clyde, not cranky at all. Just giving in to the temptation to meet foolishness with sarcasm. I'm fine. Thanks for asking.
When I was a kid, I loved to put a stick in an ant bed just to watch the little buggers scurry around. I guess I still can't resist it once in a while, though I know it is really not helpful. I suppose the compassionate thing to do would be to stop before Bill busts a gusset.
rick, what you need to know about bill is that he and i are from the same mold in a large part of our lives - both litigators. so we love to debate factually, find intricacies of argument, but we both have this lack of hesitancy to respond in kind when we perceive someone to being an asshole.
i think you tapped into that.
all is well.
This just takes me back to a point I made earlier in another post. It's all about winning. Litigation is not about finding truth, it is about winning. It is not about coming to agreement, it is about crushing the others' argument, regardless of its merit. Bill threatened to label me spam, though others who agree with his view write more inflammatory things and get a pat on the back.
This is why I went on the bubble-popping expedition recently. The air was a bit stale on those posts.
even socrates said the court system was a joke - better to go to an oracle. litigation can be about winning only. can be. but from the inside, it is about crafting an argument supported by provable facts. litigation is meant to isolate opinion and conjecture from fact. you cannot say it is warm outside, you need to say it is 68 degrees with a southeasterly wind - to you that may be warm, to another it may be cold. neither is wrong.
i never try to crush another's argument. i try to parse it to its finer points to separate fact from opinion. i segue a line of questioning with saying - is it fair for me to state that your facts are ABC and from those facts you conclude and proffer opinion DEF? i then focus on the witness's opinion to offer, if appropriate, alternative opinions that could be drawn from the same facts. i may also suggest different facts from which he could have drawn the same opinion.
there is merit in every line of questioning. there is much thought and testing of lines of inquiry before open court occurs.
are there bad attorneys? of course, but bill is not one of them. he may suck at poker, but in the courtroom he is beyond fear of contradiction as to his methods.
and i know you understand that when you go pushing in a conservative house there will be pushback. it's all back of the game.
That's all fine. And I don't judge people just because they are lawyers. I have two fiends who are litigation attorneys. They are fine people.
One question, though. I refer to the people who agree lockstep with DuPruy as sycophants and he threatens to kick me off the site. You call me an asshole (yes, counsel, I know you said "acts like an asshole" as though it had a different meaning). Did he threaten to kick you off the site?
If you read all of the comments on the site, rick, i think you will discern something. yes, folks are mostly conservative, but not uniformly. you will see some bickering between commenters. you will see the four of editors stepping in to tell someone who took a gratuitous slap at another to chill - regardless of the political leanings. i've written myself both in the comments and directly in an e for a conservative to be a bit more respectful to another commenter.
the issue is this. politicians are wax dummies. they put themselves in the public domain. they are therefore open to attack. but within a blog, regardless if a commenter sees it or not, we are not wax dummies. so attacks need to be grounded - not gratuitous slaps.
i read your comment. thought it was odd coming from you because there was no fallback. so bill expressed his opinion, you slapped, and he slapped back. i have no issue with what he did, and i know you don't either because you know you were just sticking needles in perceived balloons.
has bill ever threatened to remove me? no. first, he can't. it is our site, not his. but more importantly, whenever he and i have disagreed - and we have - i say, "i disagree and here's why ..." if you go back a few decades, you'll remember that it can also be expressed as, "jane, you ignorant slut, ..." the tone does not drive the pushback. it is the lack of substance.
glad you picked up on the turn of phrase in "asshole." i knew you would. it was meant as a subtle jab. i think you deserved it. i know you don't take that too personally.
as you see in the discussions on this site, there is no phobia of exploring liberal ideas. we're very happy to discuss the details, isolate fact from opinion, and draw the resulting threads together into a new mosaic. we just like to do it without broadsides.
i am still waiting for you to tell me specifically what ann coulter has said that you take umbrage with. i remember a friend of mine - said, rush limbaugh is just a blowhard. i said - when was the last time you listened to him? he said - (silence). go figure.
Rick:
If you want to actually think about the ramifications of this post, instead of getting ad hominem, I'm all for it.
To me there are two stories here. The fact that China and Russia have a contextual disconnect is a distraction; a McGuffin, if you will. We would find it funny that anyone could argue that it's a matter of course that Obama will be taken out mid-term in some form or another. Our system just doesn't work that way (although Nixon was impeached and run out of town, Clinton was impeached and stayed in the ring -- which may be an implication of our psychological attachment to continuity). That's what's funny about the post, and Bill has a habit of identifying things that have a superficial humorous appeal but another level of meaning.
What you may be missing is the blythe underlying assumption on the part of the two major Communist powers of the 21st century that the most left-bearing president in modern times is essentially bound to fail, and that his election is a fluke or a ruse which is transitory. Now, if one believes that "enhanced" state control of the means of production is a more evolved political philosophy, why would one think that the US would be on a DOWN trajectory with Obama at the helm, with a bad end for Obama?? That's simple -- because China and Russia don't really believe that Communism leads to a better economic result. How could they? It's just the system that permits them to maintain control. So by saying that Obama is toast, they're admitting as much -- because if it works, the guy's bulletproof.
Are they talking about a resignation? Impeachment?
No ditto head. Think JFK or Lincoln (not in a positive way this time). They can see how drivel like that you spout daily here can motivate more extremist cuckoo heads. Be at least patriotic for the country and pray, work for, and publish success for the country. Dissent constructively. Its only two weeks yet. Dare to at least uphold the constitution's 1st ammendment?
When you find yourself on the same side as enemies of the country in ill-wishes or ill-thoughts towards the president's outcome, shouldnt this at least give you pause?
After the republicans take both the house and senate in 2010, something will happen where the country will turn on Obama and the republicans will impeach him out of office! Watch and see..
Have an opinion?
blog advertising is good for you
blog advertising is good for you
Publius' Newsstand
-
Sheriff Joe Arpaio Lends Fundraising Muscle to ...
Following on the last story, this certainly will help.In his letter, being sent out to Arpaio supporters today as part of a 100,000-person national direct mail drop, the sheriff calls Hayworth's decision to challenge McCain "courageous." And he pledges to help Hayworth "every step of the way." "Senator McCain has served this country admirably but it's time to replace his moderate or even liberal positions on taxes, the border, social causes and big bank bailouts with a consistent conservative like J.D.," Arpaio continues. "After years of running over Republican principles his entire career no election year conversion to our way of thinking will save his campaign from voters that want conservatives to be a part of the solution rather than part of the problem," he says.
Views: 46 Comments: 0
-
From Right of Radio Dial, a Challenge to McCain...
Not buying it, Senator McCain.McCain now finds himself jammed, moving starkly — and often awkwardly — to the right, apparently in an effort to gain favor among the same voters whom Mr. Hayworth, a consistent voice for the far right, could pull toward him like taffy come summer. McCain now sharply criticizes the bailout bill he voted for, pivoted from his earlier position that the Guantánamo Bay detention facility should be closed, offered only a muted response to the Supreme Court’s decision undoing campaign finance laws and backed down from statements that gays in the military would be O.K. by him... “John is undergoing a campaign conversion,” Mr. Hayworth said. Hayworth’s radio-personality bluster and big emotions.. may now have a part in the greater populist narrative that threatens many of the nation’s more centrist Republicans.
Views: 31 Comments: 0
-
Defiant Iran accelerates nuclear program
I thought Obama was going to talk these things over with his boy Mahmoud and smooth everything out. Instead, Ahmadinejad remains "defiant." How's that hope-y change-y working out for us?Iran said Tuesday that it had begun producing higher-grade enriched uranium, marking a new and potentially dangerous turn in Tehran's confrontation with the West over its nuclear ambitions... U.S. National Intelligence Director Dennis C. Blair told the House intelligence committee last week that "Iran has the scientific, the technical, the industrial capacity to produce enough highly enriched uranium for a weapon in the next few years and eventually to produce a nuclear weapon. The central issue is a political decision by Iran to do so."
Views: 31 Comments: 0
-
Reid's Jobs Bill will have "Republican Support"
Looks like there's been some compromise here, as the GOP gets an extension of tax cuts that expired last year. I don't know if this is a good thing - I don't see much incentive for the GOP to do anything but obstruct the Dems at every possible point between now and November.I wouldn't want my fingerprints on anything this administration or congress proposes. Reid told reporters the bill would be introduced on Tuesday, and that it would include an extension of the tax breaks... Reid did not say how expensive the jobs bill would be. The Senate had been considering a package of roughly $80 billion. The House passed a larger jobs bill before Christmas, but now plans to unveil a different bill independent of that package, which did not garner Republican support.
Views: 57 Comments: 0
-
Without Murtha, Dems now one vote short of pass...
Didn't realize the implications of Murtha's passing today, which include the following...Back in November, the House passed its health care bill by a narrow 220 to 215 margin, with 39 Democrats voting against it. Since then, the one Republican who voted for it — Joseph Cao — has indicated that he would not support the bill a second time around given the weaker language on abortion in the Senate version. In addition, Florida Rep. Robert Wexler already retired prematurely. Factor in Murtha’s death today, and Pelosi is down to 217 votes — one short of passage. To pass the bill at some point in the next few months, she’ll need to flip a Democrat who is already on record voting against the bill.
Views: 123 Comments: 1
-
Republicans and the Populist Temptation could T...
A warning from my favorite economic analyst, Donald Luskin.Don't think that Republicans can't be sucked in when an anti-Wall Street lynch mob gets its blood up. Recall that Sarbanes-Oxley, the devastating antigrowth response in 2002 to the Enron and Worldcom scandals, was passed with virtually unanimous support by Republicans in Congress, and signed by a Republican president. Recall that last year 85 House Republicans voted for a 90% tax on bonuses for any employee of any bank that took more than $5 billion in TARP money. Investors got some good news last Friday. Stocks resisted following through on Thursday's sharp plunge after (Congress) reached an impasse on bank re-regulation. That's a nice down payment on what investors need a lot more of now: proof that the GOP won't join Democrats in a populist rush to seek revenge against Wall Street.
Views: 78 Comments: 3
-
Message to Democrats: Wall St. Sends Cash to GO...
Great news, but these guys were a little late in realizing that Obama wants to destroy all their corporations and confiscate their money. Not quite sure how they missed that.Just two years after Mr. Obama helped his party pull in record Wall Street contributions — $89 million from the securities and investment business, according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics — some of his biggest supporters, like Mr. Dimon, have become the industry’s chief lobbyists against his regulatory agenda. Republicans are rushing to capitalize on what they call Wall Street’s “buyer’s remorse” with the Democrats. And industry executives and lobbyists are warning Democrats that if Mr. Obama keeps attacking Wall Street “fat cats,” they may fight back by withholding their cash.
Views: 78 Comments: 2
-
Dow closes below 10,000 for first time in 3 mon...
The Dow sinks below a major psychological threshold.The Dow, down almost 104 points, had its 10th triple-digit move in 16 trading days. Shares of big banks pulled the market lower, extending a slump that has led to four straight weekly losses.
I can't, for the life of me, understand why bank stocks would be dropping. Inexplicable.Views: 57 Comments: 2
-
Poll: Special interests more influential under ...
Voters are now categorically rejecting every claim or promise made by this guy.... including democrats:Contrary to President Obama's promises, voters say special interests have more influence on the political process now than they did a year ago, according to a new poll. The poll, paid for by groups looking to curb the Supreme Court's recent campaign finance ruling, found that majorities of both Republicans and Democrats say special interests have increased their influence since the president took office, and they say Mr. Obama has not done enough to fight back.
Views: 59 Comments: 1
-
GOP leaders: Don't use current health bills for...
Boehner and Cantor say the Pubs aren't going to be a part of any Presidential photo-op/dog-and-pony show:If the starting point for this meeting is the job-killing bills the American people have already soundly rejected, Republicans would rightly be reluctant to participate,” the pair explained in a letter to White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. They also said President Barack Obama should remove reconciliation from the table. Using budget reconciliation rules to move healthcare reform in the Senate would mean Democrats would only need 51 votes on procedural measures instead of 60... On Sunday afternoon however, Obama refused to say he would start from scratch.
Views: 65 Comments: 2
Get Your PR Button!
More Articles By Bill Dupray
- I thought of killing myself, says climate scandal professor Phil Jones
on 2010-02-07 with 146 views - Poll: Believers in man-made global warming rapidly dwindling
on 2010-02-07 with 610 views - Obama's never-before-seen 2010 strategy
on 2010-02-07 with 596 views - Classic liberal headline: New Orleans elects first white mayor since 1978
on 2010-02-07 with 140 views - In Full: Palin's Tea Party Speech
on 2010-02-07 with 237 views - Video: Dems cheer after raising Americans' debt limit to $14,294,000,000,000
on 2010-02-04 with 383 views - Mark Kirk puts Blago front and center in new campaign ad
on 2010-02-04 with 129 views - Scott Brown's 41st vote already giving Reid fits
on 2010-02-04 with 279 views - Obama jokes about his citizenship at Prayer Breakfast
on 2010-02-04 with 207 views - House faces tough vote on $1.9 trillion more debt
on 2010-02-04 with 81 views
Impeachment won't happen unless republicans take a sweep of congress, which isn't too likely. However I do think that enough Americans will wake up from the hope drug and realize what a bad idea it was to elect Obama. We won't get the typical democrat with blinded eyes, but we can get the independents and realists.
Until then, it is going be tough sailing. Oh yea, and let us not forget the words of the VP, "... he will be tested ...". I'll bet he will.