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Wilson 1, Obama 0: Senate closes loophole for illegals on ObamaCare
by: Bill Dupray posted: 2009-09-11 16:11:00
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Well, this is kind of awkward for the White House. I seem to recall, like it was yesterday (or the day before), hearing Obama tell us that illegals would not be covered under ObamaCare.
And that mean, nasty Joe Wilson called him a liar. Funnily enough, Joe was right. After all, you can't lose a loophole that doesn't exist in the first place. Right?
From Fox News.
Among three House committees to pass bills for health reform, only one expressly bans federal funding for proving health coverage to illegal immigrants."The Congressional Research Service has indicated that indeed the bills that are before Congress would include illegal aliens," Wilson said. "And I think this is wrong."
Indeed, the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service study found that the House health care bill does not restrict illegal immigrants from receiving health care coverage.
House Republican Minority Leader John Boehner amplified the complaint that without proof of citizenship, illegal immigrants could be insured.
"There were two opportunities for House Democrats to make clear that illegal immigrants wouldn't be covered by putting in requirements to show citizenships," he said. "Both of those amendments were, in fact, rejected."
In the Senate, Democrats in the so called "Gang of Six," a group of bipartisan senators on the Senate Finance Committee which is the last panel yet to release its bill, began moving quickly to close the loophole that Wilson helped bring greater attention to.
So it turns out Obama is spreading false rumors about his own plan. Perhaps reading the bill would have been a nice idea, at least before addressing a joint session of Congress.
I am sure a presidential apology will be forthcoming from Robert Gibbs any minute now.
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Well, well, not only has Joe Wilson unwillingly stolen the spotlight, but he helped America in the process...unlike Dad in Chief over there.
So what I understand from this is that it's okay to break the rules and disrespect the office of President and not address things in the appropriate format if you don't like the person or agree with the politics. Ethics are irrelevant. Following mutually agreed upon rules is irrelevant. Poor behavior is being endorsed, even though there were prescribed sanctions for exactly that behavior, and they were not taken against Wilson. Apologies do not excuse one from the punishment. The offended party, who had every right to punish decided instead to forgive, the issue brought forward is being reviewed (and here is where criticism is appropriate, the bad behavior is being rewarded), and yet the offended party is still being personally bashed. Not the policy or the idea, but the man himself. Interesting.
Yeah, that's about right, kyross. Heard the same from Dems over the years. Seen the pathetic smirks, the dismissive gestures. Heard the House Speaker refer to the CIA as "habitual liars." Listened to Obama say from the lectern that the free press are liars. Heard him say that the HC bill was budget neutral, when he knew the CBO analysis would come out the next morning that tagged just the Medicare provision at a $1T hit. Yeah, Rep. Wilson called him a liar. Glad he did. Truth is an absolute defense.
Don't wear some white suit defending the decorum of the dems. That's complete trash.
You call it bad behavior and by that I see it's way over your head. Mr Wilson could no longer contain himself and blurted out the truth. Many of us have been in similiar situations and if you have not, then oh well. But you did admit that you do not understand and thus you end up calling it bad behavior. You'd really have had to have been in Mr Wilson's shoes when he hit the boiling point. Capice? It's a wonder why more of them didn't hit the boiling point upon hearing obama's speechifying garbage lies go on and on and on...obama never utters a word of truth. So be it but we see right through him. Sorry you don't.
So he couldn't contain himself? He doesn't have the maturity and sense of decorum that any criminal is expected to have in a court room? There are plenty of opportunities to rebut outside of that format. I'm not disagreeing that his point was legitimate. Apparently that went over your head. I figured that fact was obvious and didn't need to be repeated. However the behavior was bad. There are rules against it, and there were sanctions that could have been appropriately applied and they were not. Question: if no one acts properly, what is getting done on behalf of the rest of us? How about resolution and results instead of bickering, finger pointing and name calling? They aren't getting anywhere and supporting either side in this sort of adolescent hurts all of us in the long run. My point? It's time to tell them all to knock it off, grow up and do the jobs we elected them to do.
Clyde, I'll take another listen, but I believe that he named the behavior as lies, he didn't call the people liars. There is a difference, do I need to explain that too? If I'm wrong, I'll come back and apologize.
Kyros, your distinction at the end isn't trying to say that the leader of the Legislative branch is OK with calling the CIA "liars" because she didn't say she was told "lies," is it? In that context, clearly she was speaking much broader than Rep. Wilson did. Her condemnation was of both the words spoken and the people speaking them.
The truth with O's speech is that he was claiming something that just wasn't true. And the proof is that within a short time the Senate acted to make the correction.
Rep. Wilson's behavior was inappropriate, but I haven't seen a white suit in WDC in a long time. Dems have openly booed during SOTU speeches. The WH and dem leaders have called the American people that have peaceably demonstrated all sorts of dismissive words. The WH openly invited union members to the meetings, who were let in before the general public.
I have absolutely no issue with Rep. WIlson's deep and utter frustration, and the manner in how it came out. None what so ever.
My glass house has plenty of broken windows. I don't hold others to a standard beyond which I can conform to. Neither do I find a misstep by another and grind their face in it.
Broken windows? How are any of these glass houses, conservative or progessive, still standing?
You are throwing the same [edit - take the Lord's name in vain some other place] rock back and forth! Both house’s views are so distorted by cracks and holes that an accurate perception of the landscape beyond is utterly distorted.
Gotta love a good metaphor that you can run with….
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He's a known pathological liar. He can lie better than anyone ever and look you in the eyes when he does it. He is morally bankrupt. What a rotten role model..he's no role model. He's a Charlatan with maximus hubris and he stinks to high heaven. Dems know it.